Wednesday, January 28, 2009
Israel Faces a Fork In the Road
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TW: This 60 Minutes focuses on the West Bank settlements. These settlers are generally a very religious and strident demographic with little intention of ever leaving. If the settlers leave achieving a sustainable peace framework will be highly challenging. But unless they leave, forget about peace ever coming to Israel and Palestine.
The settlements are a cancer to the peace process which undercut the moral stature of the Israeli state. While the settlements are not the only core topic necessary for a peace settlement (right of return and Jerusalem being amongst the others), it is the least defensible attribute,, in fact largely indefensible.
The day I hear the Israelis at a minimum stopping the growth of the settlements will be the day I assume the Israelis are serious about peace until then they are hypocrites putting a huge part of our entire foreign policy at risk. When that day comes the Arabs will have had the rug pulled out from under their "woe is me" posture.
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by Eli Hertz, Myths and Facts, Jan. 27, 2009
Bob, you say Palestinian Arabs feel humiliated and harassed when Israeli authorities search them and their belongings; when they are prevented from traveling freely because of checkpoints, roadblocks, closures and curfews. You say they feel “corralled.”
Bob, in Israel, every Israeli is searched numerous times during the course of a single day. Israelis are asked to open their bags and purses for inspection. In most cases, they are subjected to body searches with a metal detector every time they enter a bank or a post office, pick up a bottle of milk at the supermarket, enter a mall or train station, or visit a hospital or medical clinic. Young Israeli men and women are physically frisked in search of suicide belts before they enter crowded nightclubs.
As a matter of routine, Israelis’ car trunks are searched every time they enter a well-trafficked parking lot. Daily, their cars pass through roadblocks that cause massive traffic jams when security forces are in hot pursuit of suicide bombers believed to have entered Israel.
Israelis are searched not only when they go out for a cup of coffee or a slice of pizza, but also when they go to the movies or a concert, where the term “dressed to kill” has an entirely different meaning.
These ordinary daily humiliations now extend to similar searches when Israelis go to weddings or Bar Mitzvahs. No one abroad talks about the humiliation Jews in Israel are subjected to, having to write at the bottom of wedding invitations and other life cycle events, “The site will be secured [by armed guards]” - to ensure relatives and friends will attend and share their joyous occasion.
One out of four Israeli children, ages 11 to 15, fear for their lives. One out of three report they fear for the lives of their family members, and more than a third report they have changed their patterns of travel and social lives due to security concerns.
Bob, these ubiquitous security checks do not exist in Arab cities and towns in Israel (or, for that matter, in Judea and Samaria) because those places are not and never have been targets of Palestinian terrorism. In fact, the average Israeli is “humiliated and harassed” by being searched far more times a day than the average Palestinian. Not one human rights group, nor you, has so much as noted this massive intrusion into the rights of privacy and person imposed on Israelis.
To date, no one protests the fact that, since the 1970s, Jewish schoolchildren in Israel are surrounded by perimeter fences, with armed guards at the schoolyard gates, as if their schools were the domiciles of Mafiosi.
Not one Arab village in Israel or the Territories has a perimeter fence around it. Guards are not required at Arabic shops, cafes, restaurants, movie theaters, wedding halls or schools - either in Israel or in the Territories. Palestinians also do not need armed guards to accompany every school trip, youth movement hike or campout. They are not targets of terrorism.
Countless Israelis in sensitive areas within the Green Line - not only in the Territories, but also in Jewish towns, villages and bedroom suburbs - are “ghettoized” behind high fences.
Many Israeli motorists avoid major arteries that pass through Arab areas of Israel, while Arab citizens and Palestinians from the Territories continue to enter Jewish cities and go about their business without peril. Israelis are told, in effect, to disguise themselves when traveling abroad - not to speak Hebrew in public and not to wear garments that reveal their Jewish-Israeli origins. Even Israel’s national airline - El Al - has been forced to remove its logo from the tails of its aircraft at certain airports, out of concern for the safety of its passengers. This followed several attempts to down Israeli civilian aircraft with missiles. On the other hand, Arabs who frequent Jewish cities and towns in Israel wear their traditional Arab headgear without fear of being attacked or harassed.
Bob, all this begs the question: Who are the victims and who are the victimizers? Who are the ones being harassed and humiliated? Palestinian Arabs or Israelis?
What did the Americans do when the Native Americans fought for their right to a piece of land they already occupied? What if the Native Americans started suicide bombing? Would they get a piece of land the size of Delaware? Oh, Bob, Delaware relative to Israel is nearly half the country. We could always hand over Texas to the Native Americans, right?
Re Eli post.
I would stipulate everyone is a victim and humiliated, and ask so now what? Seriously NOW WHAT?
Re the Anon post.
I would stipulate that Native Americans got a raw deal. Otherwise analogy does not work for me.
And the solution is what.
As long as everyone claims the greater victimization (and certainly the Palestianians are experts at the concept, amongst others) then no forward progress is possible.
Americans have ample opportunities to see and hear the Israeli point of view. The 60 Minutes piece is not perfect, whose is? Showing a Palestinian viewpoint is a relevant angle, so is showing the Israeli settler viewpoint (interestingly the comments ignored the Israeli zealot).
Folks who want to get the Palestinian view, go rent "Paradise Now". 60 minutes should have been more balanced, for their own good.
Solutions? Agreed. These comments don't focus on solutions. But neither did 60 minutes. In the 60 mins piece it seemed like the big, bad Israeli machine should leave the Palestinians alone and everyone can start singing Kumbaya.
I second the Paradise Now recomendation.
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